IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 29 July 2014 Members (asterisk for those attending): Agilent: * Fangyi Rao * Radek Biernacki Altera: * David Banas ANSYS: * Dan Dvorscak * Curtis Clark Avago (LSI) Xingdong Dai Cadence Design Systems: * Ambrish Varma Brad Brim Kumar Keshavan Ken Willis Ericsson: Anders Ekholm Intel: Michael Mirmak Maxim Integrated Products: Hassan Rafat Mentor Graphics: * John Angulo * Arpad Muranyi Micron Technology: Randy Wolff Justin Butterfield QLogic Corp. James Zhou Andy Joy SiSoft: * Walter Katz Todd Westerhoff * Mike LaBonte Synopsys Rita Horner Teraspeed Consulting Group: Scott McMorrow * Bob Ross The meeting was led by Arpad Muranyi. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Opens: - Arpad: BIRD 173 has been added to the agenda. - Ambrish: I have a question about BIRD 169 - Fangyi: How many will attend the EMC conference next week? - Todd: I will. - Fangyi: Me too, should we still meet? - We will meet next week. -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: - None ------------- Review of ARs: - None ------------- New Discussion: BIRD 169: - Ambrish showed BIRD 169. - Ambrish: Why was the portion I'm highlighting removed? - This BIRD will be voted on this week. - Todd: It was redundant, it didn't add anything. BIRD 173: - Arpad showed and highlighted part of the agenda. - Arpad: At Mentor we feel the specification should describe all matrix creation requirements. - We have talked about not overloading the parser, but we should spell out the requirements. - Not all of these would have to be checked by IBISCHK. - We would like to add some requirements. - Walter: I would support that. - Radek: It needs to be complete and carefully reviewed. - Bob: We could request to have the rules in IBISCHK. AR: Arpad work with Randy to update BIRD 173 BIRD 147: - Ambrish showed BIRD 147 update draft 10. - Ambrish: The new changes are in blue. - Bob: We are using the term "backchannel instances". - A tree diagram was added. - The BCI branch is under Protocol_Specific. - Section numbers here are wrong, it will be under section 10 in the IBIS specification. - These are editorial, not functionality changes. - Bit_Pattern and LFSR_Seed are of Type Bits. - The pattern branches can be in any order. - Ambrish: We will prefix approved BCI files with "IBIS_". - Radek: Existing BCI files will be replaced? - Ambrish: They will have to be discussed and approved. - Bob: There should not be much detail in this BIRD about managing approval. - Ambrish: The model will look for the BCI branch in the input string. - Walter: Could we remove "extra" from "extra taps"? - Ambrish: These are ones not required by a protocol. - Bob: It should be "back-channel", not "backchannel". - Mike: The "embellishments" sentence says other content is allowed, but only outside the BCI branch? - Ambrish: Yes only content in the BCI branch has to follow this specification. - Todd: This is headed toward proprietary model pairs. - Bob: The official ones will begin with "IBIS_". - Mike: Then unofficial BCI files must be disallowed from beginning with "IBIS_". - Ambrish: The BIRD specifies that. - Bob: This BIRD needs to specify that only the IBIS Open Forum can manage this. - It probably will be under a BCI directory on the server. - Also "IBIS_" should be lowercase "ibis_". - The last word "with" can be dropped from section 1.7.2 of this BIRD. AR: Bob and Ambrish update BIRD 147 - Walter showed an email draft. - Walter: Is this syntax correct? - Bob: It needs to be "Protocol_Specific", not "Model_Specific". - Walter: This gives an example of language to describe what is allowed in the strings. - We should explicitly say if this is allowed. - Also we should have rules about file names being lowercase. - Ambrish: What will happen to the BIRD 128 changes? - Arpad: We did not decide what the changes would be, but they will be made in BIRD 147. - We need to decide what changes are needed. - Ambrish: If it's OK with Walter I'll work on that. - Walter" That's OK. - Radek: We have a rule requiring non-null root, but this InOut may need different rules. AR: Ambrish examine BIRD 128 for possible BIRD 147 updates. ------------- Next meeting: 05 Aug 2014 12:00pm PT ------------- IBIS Interconnect SPICE Wish List: 1) Simulator directives